2005-04-08 [dani california 311]: yeah,it is

2005-04-08 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: Well, I actaully find it easier...and either way, most everyone is adjusted now

2005-04-08 [dani california 311]: yeah,i guess,gp

2005-04-14 [greyhart]: wha? since when was this wiki about the individual? It's simply a statement against the wrongs that people do, not an attack against people themselves. "Love the sinner, hate the sin"? the theology behind that is that the individual should be loved and accepted for who they are. the act of sinning is what is disliked. you cannot say that no one sins because no one is perfect. and while it is stated that this wiki is against homosexuality and premarital sex, this is not an attack on the individual. I agree that it is somewhat closeminded, however, they are willing to accept the individuals as they are...if my own understanding of the concept is correct.

2005-04-14 [Leelo]: yeah this wiki is mostly about love the sinner hate the sin, but it got started on a little talk me and blaze had, so yeah, that's why it has that.

2005-04-14 [Blaze the Nameless]: I sent that person a message and asked them to leave us alone.

2005-04-20 [dani california 311]: cool,and good

2005-04-20 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: yes...so, Hi all

2005-04-21 [Leelo]: Howdy~!!!

2005-04-22 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: HAHAHA post birthday girl!!

2005-04-22 [Leelo]: lol

2005-04-29 [dani california 311]: hi

2005-04-29 [Leelo]: howdy~!!

2005-04-29 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: hows it goin'?

2005-05-02 [dani california 311]: good here,how is every one else?

2005-06-14 [Blaze the Nameless]: One of my friends asked me a very interesting question.

2005-06-14 [Leelo]: and what was that??

2005-06-14 [Blaze the Nameless]: What would I do if I had a child that was gay

2005-06-14 [Leelo]: hmmm first off I will bring them up to not be gay, and if they "decided" to be gay, then I would sit them down and give them a long talkin to, about how it's not right. But firstly I would see to it, that never happens.

2005-06-14 [Blaze the Nameless]: Well you see my 'friend' is gay. Acutally, he's not my friend anymore

2005-06-14 [Leelo]: Ain't everyones "friends" gay these days?

2005-06-14 [Blaze the Nameless]: Well the thing he was my friend until he crossed the line.

2005-06-14 [Leelo]: what you mean??

2005-06-14 [Blaze the Nameless]: He 'accidently' groped my boobs twice and rubbed my leg alot.

2005-06-14 [Leelo]: the nhe's obviously not gay like he says.... hmmmmm

2005-06-14 [Blaze the Nameless]: He's bi even though he denies it.

2005-06-14 [Leelo]: o.O ok.... lol haha I never quit got the bi thing, either your straight or your gay, theres no inbetween lol. *shrugs* Oh well, guess that's people fer ya.

2005-06-14 [Blaze the Nameless]: But he's acting like he didn't do anything!!!

2005-06-14 [Leelo]: hmmm well he maybe gay, but he's still a guy so yeah... he'll deny everythin, cuz he's a lame guy lol.

2005-06-14 [Blaze the Nameless]: Yes he is!

2005-06-15 [Leelo]: Yes yes

2005-06-15 [mr. beefy]: ok i have a question whats the "penalty" for suicide....i need to know

2005-06-15 [Leelo]: death. BEcause your killin yourself and you die like everyone else, but if you believed in God and accepted him you'll still go to heaven, "Once saved always saved" Is that what you was askin??

2005-06-15 [mr. beefy]: i always heard suicide = instant hell

2005-06-16 [Shee A'beanne Alainn]: yeah that one confuses me too...where does it say that if you committ suicide you go straight to hell?

2005-06-16 [mr. beefy]: i dont know but ive thought it since i was in sunday school i heard it somewhere multiple times

2005-06-16 [Shee A'beanne Alainn]: me too...it confuses me

2005-06-16 [mr. beefy]: i might find out ... if i can do it.. i wont be able to tell you tho...

2005-06-16 [Shee A'beanne Alainn]: dont

2005-06-16 [Leelo]: Ummm don't go killin yourself!!!!!! But if you accepted God and stuff you'll go to heaven but if you didn't accept God then you'll go to hell! But don't go killin yourself just to see or whatever, life is too preciouse of a thing to just throw away!!

2005-06-16 [mr. beefy]: i dont know yet...

2005-06-16 [mr. beefy]: in this world things are too unsensitive and niave for the sensitive and naive.. as a great band said in a song.. my eyes are blind but i can see ... the sun no longer sets me free ...

2005-06-16 [Leelo]: Just don't do it.

2005-06-17 [Shee A'beanne Alainn]: please don't...if you need to talk, e-mail me...believe it or not I might be able to understand you abit, or at least sympathise with you!

2005-06-17 [Blaze the Nameless]: Would anyone mind if I posted my newest wiki here for advertisment?

2005-06-17 [Leelo]: i don't this this person really wants to end they're life... I'm not sure though, but this person sounds a bit different compared to the others who usually have they're minds made up, they won't be on the internet, they'll just go and do it. Like my friend [Saya] she went off a just killed herself.... no warnin no nothin... she just... killed herself...... just like that... I still can't believe she did that.... she was a great girl with lots of things goin for her. *shrugs* Oh well I can't change what she did... I just hope that she's in a better place now.

2005-06-17 [mr. beefy]: i cant fyi it hurts knowing i cant be with her but her smiles make up for that mostly and i couldnt think i made her cry if i did

2005-06-17 [Blaze the Nameless]: That's sad. I wish people would think about who they're hurting before they do stuff like that.

2005-06-17 [Leelo]: Yeah...

2005-06-17 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: (agrees)

2005-06-19 [mr. beefy]: how can you feel like you are at rock bottom... then god comes over to see how much worse he can make you feel?

2005-06-19 [Shee A'beanne Alainn]: I don't really think its God making you feel worse...I think hes the one who helps you through it. I suppose it gets worse when you start to feel again...which is a good thing...or when you stop feeling....and that I don't entirly undersatnd yet.

2005-06-19 [Leelo]: lol well we make it worse when God tries to help us, because some of us don't want any help, and we push him aside, and we'd rather feel sorry for ourselves, every human bein is a victim of this, we all do it. So it's not God makin you feel worse, it's your own self makin you feel worse, by not lettin him help you. Think of that old song "Keep on the sunny side always on the sunny side, keep on the sunny side of life, it will help us everyday, and it will brighten all the day, if we keep on the sunny side of life"

2005-06-20 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: Satin is sneaky, he hates us, and wants us to die and burn forever..wouldn't it make sense that he feeds society to believe that God hates us? It only makes sense. God does not hate, period. He wants to see us happy, so consider the sorce of your feelings before pin pointing who it came from, chances are, if it's misery, it isn't from God

2005-06-20 [mr. beefy]: i want to get this straight 100% if im a christian and commit suicide im not bound for hell? tell me please ans im not changing my mind so dont try to make me

2005-06-20 [dani california 311]: idk........but maybe someone else does

2005-06-20 [Shee A'beanne Alainn]: Ok....I don't know if you'd end up in hell or not...but if you do fail in commiting suicide,...the hospital is hell...maybe that can be thought about...to aviod that very real hell that is the psychiatric ward of the hospital.

2005-06-20 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: no one knows about the afterlife and where people go. Thats up for God to decide. There are no promises that any of us can give because none of us know.

2005-06-20 [mr. beefy]: hahahaha u think ive never been to the ward? .. phht ive been to 4 different ones 6 times total

2005-06-20 [Leelo]: well if your truely tired of life and if you are a born again christian, and suicide is like all other sin, it can be forgiven. And if you kill yourself then yes you'll go to heaven, but I wouldn't advise you to kill yourself. I'd advise you to do what God wants you to do, he wants you to live. And think about the people you'd be leavin behind. Listen, I don't know what's all goin on, but I do no this, it's nothin too big for God to handle and take care of. Just pray and trust in him and he'll help you through whatever it is. Life is too precious of a thing to just through away.

2005-06-20 [mr. beefy]: im not throwing anything away im not ever going to help anyone plus i think god wants me to die as hes ignoring me and hes showing me theres nothing to lose and doing a good job

2005-06-20 [Echo Rhapsody]: i know that feeling

2005-06-21 [Child of God]: I know where you are comming from with that. God doesn't want anyone to die because he loves us all. God isn't ignoring you, maybe it's just a bit difficult to hear him right now cause of everything that is going on within and without you. Remember Job, who felt the same way sometimes but never lost faith. Also many people would be affected by your death whether you know it or not; even if it is only one person there will be lasting reprucusions. Trust me, I've hit rock bottom and kept falling with no hope in sight before so I know exactly what you are feeling with this. But, the fact that you posted it here and asked for advice shows God's hand in your life, that He doesn't want you to die.

2005-06-21 [Child of God]: When you tell someone else, anyone, even a stranger, it shows that even if it is subconcious you have some desire to live. Perhaps right now you can't see what that reason is, but it is there. Also, no one knows what the future holds. How do you know things won't get better? I suffered with suicidal tendancies for eight years before finally finding a purpose and reason for life. Even if it is hidden, it's always there. God has plans for everyone, how do you know that you won't be the person to inspire the next great mind? How do you know you won't be that next great mind? Ya know, people sometimes treat suicide like a sickness or pity-call but that just shows the people who have not truly

2005-06-21 [Child of God]: felt what it is like. Like when you are literaly alone even amoungst people, that you have no purpose and are only a burden to those around you. You feel empty and meaninless, usually in pain and you just want it all to end; your tired of the daily torture, the daily fighting and you never think it's going to end. There are people here to tell you it will end, but not in the ways you think and not by your hand ending your life. If anything, that only makes things worse. One of our commandments as Christians are not to do harm to others; by taking your life you are violating that command because you hurt those around you. No matter how alone you feel, you are never alone. 

2005-06-21 [Child of God]: This forum here proves it. We may not know who you are, but we all here care about you, and now that many of us have met you, we would be affected by your death as well. Feel more than free to email me if you ever want to talk cause no one should ever have to face something like this alone.

2005-06-27 [dani california 311]: yeah.........

2005-08-21 [Blaze the Nameless]: I have a question: would you rather be human or an animal? One of my friends says she wish she wasn't human.

2005-08-21 [Leelo]: lol okie.... I just see it as, "I am what I am, and I'm happy with what I am"

2005-08-21 [Blaze the Nameless]: Well the thing is that if we aren't human, then we're either an animal, a non living form or a planet which has no soul.

2005-08-21 [Leelo]: How do you know animals don't have souls? It doesn't say anywhere that an animal doesn't have a soul.

2005-08-21 [Cam Static]: If one kind of creature have souls, then all creatures have souls. It all depends if you believe in Souls or not.

2005-08-21 [Catlover]: Why? Some creatures have eyes and others don't. Why do you consider souls to be any different?

2005-08-21 [Blaze the Nameless]: It says in the Bible that only humans have souls. Animals don't go to heaven but we do . We have a chance to go to heaven and animals don't have a choice to go to heaven.

2005-08-21 [Cam Static]: How do the Bible know that? Personally, I don't believe in souls, but I like the meaning by it. Same with God. And humans are mammals, so we are an animal species too. only a bit smarter. though that can be debated aswell....

2005-08-21 [Blaze the Nameless]: Yes that can be debated.

2005-08-21 [Child of God]: Where in the Bible does it say animals don't have souls? We had this discussion in our youth group last week as part of an evolution discussion but we couldn't find the passage.

2005-08-22 [Blaze the Nameless]: No, let me try again. It doesn't really said that but it says that humans were made in God's image, not animals. He made animals for us so we could have another source of food and compaions as well.

2005-08-22 [Child of God]: *sigh* so the debate continues. Guess that's what makes life interesting! ^-^

2005-08-22 [Blaze the Nameless]: Yes it does. I mean, it kinda be boring if everyone had the same opion.

2005-08-22 [Child of God]: . . . I think you are the only one on right now Blaze on both wikis!

2005-08-22 [Blaze the Nameless]: Wow! I feel a bit special!

2005-08-22 [Child of God]: ^-^

2005-08-22 [Leelo]: Yes animals go to heaven theres something in the bible where God said, "There is a heaven for all my creations" meaning animals and everything else he created. So yes animals DO go to heaven.

2005-08-22 [Leelo]: But I reckin that can be debated to, since everyone usually has a different opinion about God's word lol. That's a good thing though (in some cases lol)

2005-08-22 [Blaze the Nameless]: Yeah, that could be.

2005-08-23 [Leelo]: or all the animals have slones... XD which I highly doubt. But I honestly don't think God will just let the animals live and die with out a place to go to. I don't think God is like that. So i think either the animals have souls, or he re-encarnates them somehow in heaven for heaven. lol some thing like that. But I think they have souls lol.]

2005-08-23 [Blaze the Nameless]: Okay here something we can disccuss: one of my non-Christian friends says that in a few years Christiany will be gone.

2005-08-23 [Catlover]: A few years? No way. A few decades...maybe. But what is the number? A billion Christians or is that just Catholics? Whichever, a billion people don't lose their faith that quickly.

2005-08-23 [Blaze the Nameless]: He really didn't say but some reason I don't believe that.

2005-08-24 [Child of God]: well, considering it's lasted for over 2, 000 years and counting, and based off one of the first mono-theistic(sp?) religions in recorded history, I would say it isn't going any where any time soon!

2005-08-24 [Leelo]: he could be saying that out government will try to take our freedome to christianity away, but christianity won't go away.

2005-08-24 [Blaze the Nameless]: No. I don't think that's what he meant. He meant that there will be no more Christians.

2005-08-24 [Leelo]: either way there will always be christians.

2005-08-24 [Catlover]: In Europe (I don't know about America, it doesn't seem like it), Christianity is getting less and less popular. In developing countries, it's getting more popular. So perhaps within Europe, Christianity will eventually disappear, but not elsewhere. I need to look up a few statistics on the growth (or lack of it) of Christianity to really take part in any sort of debate about it.

2005-08-24 [Blaze the Nameless]: That could happen.

2005-08-31 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: Please, could some people pay a visit to my new wiki: SPF 5000...it could use the publicity

2005-09-05 [dani california 311]: whats it about?

2005-09-06 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: nothing really, its about a cop friend of mine...but me and a few other friends just hang out there and type about whatever seems fun!

2005-09-08 [dani california 311]: oh,okie!! ^^

2005-11-16 [Child of God]: Hey! Haven't heard much from this wiki lately!

2005-11-16 [Leelo]: lol no one really talks on it much anymore

2005-11-16 [Child of God]: well let's get this place moving again! *pulls out a disco ball, 70's music and begins to disco on the table* Comeon everyone! Join in!

2005-11-16 [greyhart]: *does the disco jig move* ^_^

2005-11-16 [Child of God]: See?? People are joining in! EVERYBODY NOW!!!! *jigs along side Shella*

2005-11-16 [Leelo]: *blinks*

2005-11-16 [Child of God]: Comeone! Join in [Leelo]! *holds out hand*

2005-11-16 [greyhart]: Veeeerry interesting...eh? <( < )  <( ^^ )> ( > )>  0_o

2005-11-16 [Child of God]: ^-^

2005-11-16 [Leelo]: @.@......... I have a headache XD

2005-11-16 [Itsme2]: I'm sorry

2005-11-16 [Child of God]: for what?

2005-11-16 [Leelo]: lol So what's everyone up to?

2005-11-16 [Itsme2]: I feel bad for [Leelo]. she has a headache. I'm expressing sympathy.

2005-11-16 [Blaze the Nameless]: Poor Snicker.

2005-11-17 [Leelo]: lmao thankies *huggles* haha it was just last night though I was a little stuffy XD

2005-11-18 [greyhart]: Feel better soon...that's an order!! ^_^ j/k I hope you feel better soon though.

2005-12-03 [dani california 311]: yeah, i hope you get better too

2005-12-03 [Leelo]: lol well last month when I had the headacke I took a couple of motrin and felt better so thanks for the thoughts I just haven't checked up on this wiki in forever lol

2005-12-03 [greyhart]: It kinda stumbles...for a few messages there're people but then nobody comes for a while...

2005-12-03 [Leelo]: yeah

2005-12-04 [Itsme2]: Yeah. I've noticed that.

2005-12-04 [Child of God]: THE CHRONICLES OF NARNIA ARE COMMING OUT FRIDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2005-12-04 [Leelo]: Yeah Saturday me and the church youth group is going to go see it :D

2005-12-04 [greyhart]: WOOT!! I've been waiting so long I had completely forgotten about it ....^_^

2005-12-04 [Leelo]: lol

2005-12-04 [Itsme2]: I can't wait. My parents are making me wait until Christmas day to see it. It's kind of their general Christmas present to us kids.

2005-12-04 [Leelo]: lol aweosme hehe :D

2005-12-04 [dani california 311]: awesome. my gift from my rents is some clothes, and i believe they are looking at Ipods. if they are,i am giving my MP3 to a friend of mine. But i saw them with a bag of hot topic clothes, but i acted like i didnt see it

2005-12-05 [Leelo]: lol cool I've got a mp3 player got it off of ebay lol. I asked for 3 dvds and a trip to the Disney store :D lol

2005-12-05 [Itsme2]: I asked for a keyboard. But since they're gonna go all out and get a super nice one, like the kind that's in the sanctuary at our church, they're not going to be able to get it for me until my birthday.

2005-12-06 [Leelo]: lol cool :D it'll be worth the wait I hope...

2005-12-06 [greyhart]: I didn't ask for anything...I'm guessing I'll get candy though...that seems to be the gift trend of the year...

2005-12-06 [Itsme2]: Candy is always good.

2005-12-06 [Leelo]: yeppers

2005-12-09 [dani california 311]: hehe,i am getting a ton of stuff. im getting a new NBC bedset

2005-12-09 [Leelo]: cool lol

2005-12-09 [stupid act]: I dont know what im getting for christmas i havent really thought of it maybe ill get a computer from wal-mart and get the internet for it lol

2005-12-10 [Leelo]: yeah you've told me about that and you've been bugging me about everything about computers -.-';; So whenever you get your computer I'm just gonna have to take a trip to your house to hook everything up and show you how to use it and download all the software you'll want, need, or be using... -.-';; you ask for so little and yet so much....

2005-12-16 [Itsme2]: lol

2005-12-16 [dani california 311]: hehe

2006-01-12 [stupid act]: hey everyone i finaly got the internet so now i don't have to use my cusin's computer yay

2006-01-12 [Leelo]: haha yeah, THANK GOD!!!

2006-01-12 [greyhart]: Yay

2006-01-12 [Leelo]: lol

2006-01-13 [dani california 311]: hehe

2006-01-13 [Snowboarding Hobitz]:

2006-01-13 [Leelo]: XD

2006-01-16 [greyhart]: What does it look like? My comp isn't letting it show.

2006-01-16 [Leelo]: nore is mine...

2006-01-16 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: it's a crappy animated stick figure doing an arm wave...it's basically all i've learned in computer animations class...but than again, it's only been 3 days.

2006-02-01 [dani california 311]: lol. give it time, u will get better

2006-02-01 [Leelo]: yeah

2006-02-01 [dani california 311]: anyways, how is everyone?

2006-02-02 [Leelo]: thngs are fine here...

2006-02-02 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: same here....a bit dull...work gets old fast

2006-02-02 [Leelo]: Yeah

2006-02-03 [Itsme2]: Things are great here. How are you doing?

2006-02-03 [Leelo]: Hey

2006-02-03 [Itsme2]: Hola! Como estas?

2006-02-03 [Blaze the Nameless]: Muy bien!

2006-02-03 [Itsme2]: Yeah, I was planning out this conversation in spanish, but I forgot it.

2006-02-05 [stupid act]: yeh

2006-02-09 [greyhart]: So, how has everyone been lately?

2006-02-09 [Leelo]: fine

2006-02-09 [Blaze the Nameless]: I'm good.

2006-02-09 [Leelo]: yay!

2006-02-11 [dani california 311]: woohoo

2006-02-11 [Leelo]: lol funny how we endup with yays and wooohoos XD

2006-02-11 [Itsme2]: Yay is always a good way to fill in when conversation is lacking.

2006-02-11 [Leelo]: lol hahah yes yes!! ^^

2006-02-11 [Itsme2]: Sooo...YAY!!!! lol

2006-02-11 [Leelo]: YAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!!! *dies*

2006-02-11 [Itsme2]: I guess it was over-exertion.

2006-02-11 [Leelo]: yeah ^^

2006-02-12 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: i bought a new movie!! it has cute little bunnies in it!!! the new wallace and gromit thing...yeah. cute

2006-02-13 [Leelo]: Whats the name?

2006-02-18 [Sedition]: have fun,pricks. http://www.nsm88.com/jointhefight/membership.html

2006-02-18 [dani california 311]: yeah, that movie is funny. i fell asleep watching it with my bf in the theatre =P

2006-02-18 [Leelo]: lol I still dunno what y a'l lare talking about XD

2006-03-09 [dani california 311]: wallace and gromit the movie

2006-03-10 [Leelo]: okie dokie then....

2006-03-15 [greyhart]: umm...just a random question...what's up with Shadow Alpha and the socialist sign up form?

2006-03-15 [Leelo]: I dunno... i tried to look at the link but my thing preventent it.

2006-03-16 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: probibly for the best. anyways. i also bought harry potter. the guy who plays him is a horendous actor. but it's still a fun movie.

2006-03-16 [Leelo]: lmao I think he's ugly ^^ but that's just my opinion...

2006-03-27 [Child of God]: . . . where did that come from ???

2006-03-27 [Leelo]: I think we're natzis now lol

2006-03-27 [Blaze the Nameless]: Aw man, Hitler snuck up on me again!

2006-03-28 [Leelo]: Oh really he did??? o.O'

2006-03-29 [Blaze the Nameless]: Yeah, he did. Dern him

2006-03-29 [Leelo]: haha

2006-03-29 [dani california 311]: lol, we r talking about him in my multicultural studies class. we r talking about wat he did to jews for the thousandth time that i have ever talked about it. he makes me fall asleep

2006-03-30 [Child of God]: You have to be careful not to become desensitized to what happened though. If you do, that's when you chance to repeat it, which has already happened in other countries.

2006-04-02 [Blaze the Nameless]: Excuse me? Who died and gave you the right to judge us?

2006-04-02 [Blaze the Nameless]: What kind of answer is that? Jesus died for our sins. He didn't die so we could be judged by people who don't even know us. Please, stop posting on this wiki and leave us alone. We haven't done anything too you.

2006-04-02 [Leelo]: Umm Shadow I don't know why your here or what your purpose is, but I assure you, that we 'DONT' hate gays. Alright? Just because we don't agree with something doesn't make us discriminat or any other thing you may want to call us. So just deal with the fact that you have your own opinions and we have ours. And if you can't do anything else other then calling us names and referrring to us as nazis then you can leave. I have no time for such things, but if you want to be respectful and act like a mature adult or something close to it, then by all means you are welcome here. I don't care that you have other opinions, I only care when you push them on us, and call us everything under the sun.

2006-04-02 [Leelo]: And shadow your calling us hypocrites when we just don't agree with something, I am calling you a hypocrite for judging someone before getting to know them. Now tell me, who's the hypocrite?

2006-04-03 [Child of God]: -_- 'Boy, somebody doesn't do their research! Some of us love gay people alot. My uncle is gay, and he is my favourite uncle. Gay people tend to be the sweetest people going. (And his spouse makes the most amazing pasta you've ever tasted!)

2006-04-03 [Blaze the Nameless]: That's true, they are. Gay people are some of the nicest people you're ever meet. One of my friends is a lesbian and an athesit. I love her to death. (Sorry, I suck at spelling.)